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01. on my way home from starbucks/the store just now, i was driving on a little street near my house and i hit a red light. however, by the time i was actually sitting at the intersection, the sun was shining brightly RIGHT next to the light, and no matter how i tried to shade my eyes and hold up a hand, i seriously couldn't tell if the light was red or green. and there's not enough traffic to be all "oh, the cars coming that way are stopped", and it's a one-way street so i couldn't just wait for people coming toward me to go. so i just waited until i figured it was probably green, took a deep breath, and went for it. NOT FUN. D:

02. is kyle peek a father?!?! O.O

03. i have some thinky thoughts about, of all things, seinfeld. well, not so much the show itself, but like...okay. scott loves seinfeld. he thinks it's hilarious, and i realize he is not alone there. i don't necessarily find it un-funny, i guess. i mean, i usually see the jokes coming a mile away, but there are funny moments, and i get a kick out of the concept that it's a show about nothing, and their treatment of the minutiae of daily life can sometimes be quite clever.

however, i've never been able to really enjoy the show, because i find all the characters to be kind of douchebaggy. like, they're all eccentric and whatever, and that's fine, but they're all so inherently selfish and self-involved that it bothers me. and, i mean, i have a long history of loving the "bad" characters on tv shows, from logan echolls to alex karev to chuck bass (with plenty of other stops in-between) but they almost always have an underlying humanity that i think the seinfeld cast does not.

scott thinks i'm ridiculous, and that you don't have to be able to empathize with characters in order to enjoy a show, but i disagree, i think because i rarely watch (or read) things for the plot. 9 times out of 10, i watch the shows i watch for the characters, and i read the books i read for the prose. not to say i don't appreciate a good plot twist or a cliffhanger or just a well-crafted story, but that's rarely my main concern.

now, i know comedy is a different beast than stuff like gossip girl or whatever the hell else i watch, but i think most comedies have characters that are, well, likable, and with whom people can identify, whether it's jim halpert or liz lemon or ted mosby or whatever. scrubs was on the the other day, and scott said he thinks the characters on seinfeld are more likable than the characters on seinfeld. which, i disagree, but i can vaguely understand why he might say that. i mean, JD is not necessarily a great guy. he can be mean, and selfish, and generally kind of weak. but again, there's humanity there, i think. and dr. cox, for all his rage and bluster, has a good heart underneath. (mind you, i haven't actually watched scrubs in a couple of years, so i'm basing this off the first 3 or 4 seasons.)

all of that ^^^ to say, i suppose: what makes a character someone you can relate to/empathize with/enjoy? do you need characters like that to enjoy a TV show? do you agree with me that the characters on seinfeld are unlikable assholes, or have i got it all wrong?

04. david fucking cook having a gigglefit! everyone who cares probably saw this already but you can watch it again. ♥


ETA 05. also, this.

XD *icons*

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Date: 2008-12-08 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starwishful.livejournal.com
This is a very interesting entry! I love Seinfeld, but I think I love it because I loved it when it was originally on. When Seinfeld originally aired, I was a lot younger and watched TV simply for entertainment. I think it's smart and, at the time, was different. Years later, in my mid twenties, I started watching TV for different reasons, more similar to the reasons I read. Now I need to be able to care about the characters and care about the overall story. I need to feel involved and devoted. I need to daydream storylines while in the shower! So, if Seinfeld was introduced today, I bet I'd be like "Whaaaaa?" It's why I can't connect to My Name is Earl, probably. But because I loved it then, I can still enjoy it now... the same way I can still watch old Nickelodeon shows with bad acting and Canadian accents because I loved them dearly when I was 11. Oh, and even though she's just as selfish as the rest of them, for some reason I've always adored Elaine, even though even when originally watching Seinfeld, the other three drove me crazy.

In conclusion, George Costanza is not equal to Logan Echolls but is perhaps equal to Dick Casablancas. :-P

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